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There is wind where the rose was,
Cold rain where sweet grass was,
And clouds like sheep
Stream o'er the steep
Grey skies where the lark was.

Nought warm where your hand was,
Nought gold where your hair was,
But phantom, forlorn,
Beneath the thorn,
Your ghost where your face was.

Cold wind where your voice was,
Tears, tears where my heart was,
And ever with me,
Child, ever with me,
Silence where hope was.

November by Walter de la Mare
Learn English in November

Monday Night Owls - 12 November 2018 - Can you get a pay rise by moving abroad?

NatashaTNatashaT Posts: 1,255 Teacher
We read an article talking about whether people usually increase their wages when they move to another country, and the other factors that are involved:


Vocabulary Top 7:

the property ladder - a series of ascending stages by which people are perceived to progress as they are able to buy more expensive houses, the initial stage consisting of buying one’s first property

underpinned - to strengthen or support (something) from below

fritter away - to spend or use up (something) in a slow and usually foolish way

stint - a period of time spent doing a certain job or activity

overseas - in or to a foreign country, especially one that is across a sea or ocean

cheap and cheerful - simple and inexpensive

windfall - an unexpected amount of money that you get as a gift, prize, etc.

Do you think it's worth moving to another country for a pay rise?
Do you think most people who move to another country earn more?


  • aprilapril Moderator Posts: 11,256 mod
    edited November 2018
    Moving to another country is worth trying, for people with adventure spirit; even if you don't have any pay rise.
    And if you can get some windfall, that's always welcome.
    Staying in different countries without playing tourist, for quite a long period of time so you have time to know the people and their culture, the language ... that's quite an experience!
    If I were still young, I wouldn't think twice if I would have that kind of opportunity.

    I don't think I will be able to attend the Wednesday's session, but actually, I'm very curious about your overseas' stint, @NatashaT . :D

    Do I think most people who move to another country earn more?
    I don't think so.
    I'm talking here about for example, seasonal workers or volunteer workers or people with missionary work.

    Post edited by april on
  • NatashaTNatashaT Posts: 1,255 Teacher
    I'll try to record the session @april , and if I don't talk about my experiences, I'll write a message here instead ;)
  • BassaBassa Posts: 116 ✭✭✭
    Hi @NatashaT , basically I don’t think all people decide to leave their countries to increase their wages effectively rise the goal at the end.
    Sometimes may be true but usually a person who makes money in another country is the one that exports an incredible knowledge and is called specifically to do a particular job...in the most part of cases I’d like to see the migration as the way to live a different experience ... to starting from Zero...once again ! So maybe the reason of “more money” is like the mask that hides the truth which is that a lot of people live of challenges and is stimulated by them ....and the idea of build a new life in a country they don’t know is one of the most exciting.
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