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Amazon is a disaster for workers

Cinzia80Cinzia80 Posts: 268 ✭✭
I've read this article and I would share it with you. I think it's a very sad reflection of which some job's conditions are.



  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 48,481 ✭✭✭✭
    Amazon is not a very good employer @Cinzia80, but for many staff they still accept the terrible conditions as they would rather be employed than out of work.

    You might find this review of a book I read where the author worked at Amazon and a few other gig-economy basic wage jobs. The chapter on his experience at Amazon is really shocking.

  • Cinzia80Cinzia80 Posts: 268 ✭✭
    Yes @mheredge they use people who need to work and who need money. They know that for every person thet fired, will be there always another who need to work, and people all over the world still buy on Amazon despite all these news, so they don't have any concern.
    It seems that their rules are on legality border, so they can continue to do what they want.
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 48,481 ✭✭✭✭
    I was especially shocked by the writer's account of how toilets are located 15 minutes or more walk away and that the time is deducted from the worker's pay @Cinzia80. I think this is why men are said to carry bottles around for when nature calls. Not so easy for women however.
  • Cinzia80Cinzia80 Posts: 268 ✭✭
    I'm glad I'm not an Amazon buyer @mheredge
    I've bought a few things many years ago, then I've prefered other e-commerce. I think Amazon is also expensive. I widely prefer Ebay.
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 48,481 ✭✭✭✭
    I hate to say it, but I take advantage of Amazon's free kindle books and sometimes order books from them @Cinzia80. I avoid using them for other things though. But I wonder at any of the other mail order firms, whether they are much better.
  • amatsuscribbleramatsuscribbler Posts: 4,615 mod
    @Cinzia80 have you watched 'I, Daniel Blake'? It's a film by Ken Loach about working conditions in the UK and how bad they have become. Based on real life experiences, Ken Loach directed and is a master story teller.
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 48,481 ✭✭✭✭
    @Cinzia80, I agree with @amatsuscribbler. 'I, Daniel Blake' is a 'must see' film. In fact all of Ken Loach's movies are excellent and provide a real insight into social conditions in the UK.

    This interview with Ken Loach tells about the situation found in many places in the UK. Apologies for the French (it an Arte video), but you hear Ken Loach mainly and there are even subtitiles for French viewers who can't follow the English.

  • VokVok Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 28
    Another film directed by Ken Loach worth checking out is Sorry We Missed You @Cinzia80 @mheredge @amatsuscribbler . It's about a family in the UK and its struggle to make ends meet.


    I'd also recommend reading a book called Hired: Six Months Undercover in Low-Wage by James Bloodworth which gives a good insight into what working low-paid jobs in the gig economy really look like.

  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 48,481 ✭✭✭✭
    @Vok this film highlights the problems faced by zero hour contracts, where workers have no idea how much money they might make from week to week and often have to cut corners to make ends meet.

    I, Daniel Blake however, kicks more of a punch and had me in tears by the end.
  • Cinzia80Cinzia80 Posts: 268 ✭✭
    edited June 28
    @mheredge @Vok @amatsuscribbler
    I've just noticed that exists a biography of Jeff Bezos, a book about his intuitions, his dreams and his values. The story of a dreamer that left his weel paid job to follow his dream untill to make it real with Amazon.

    Well, surely he was able to create a big empire. He surely is a great business man.
    But on the light of all the facts made known about the job conditions of Amazon's workers, we really need a Bezos's biography? I don't think so.
  • amatsuscribbleramatsuscribbler Posts: 4,615 mod
    I don't tend to read biographies @Cinzia80 but I might do with his as to get to such heights of financial success is intriguing. However, I wonder how true it is because to get to that level of income you must have had to do some pretty awful things?
  • Cinzia80Cinzia80 Posts: 268 ✭✭
    Yes @amatsuscribbler I think biographies are pretty boring too. And I agree wth you: those worlds are inhabited by sharks.
  • amatsuscribbleramatsuscribbler Posts: 4,615 mod
    I think that's an insult to sharks! :D
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 48,481 ✭✭✭✭
    @amatsuscribbler I think some autobiographies of journalists can be interesting as they reveal a side of historical events you don't usually read about in history books.
  • amatsuscribbleramatsuscribbler Posts: 4,615 mod
    @mheredge I don't disagree. I just don't tend to enjoy reading them. I have read a few though, T.E.Lawrence for one. Hard work and very self obsessed!
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