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There is wind where the rose was,
Cold rain where sweet grass was,
And clouds like sheep
Stream o'er the steep
Grey skies where the lark was.

Nought warm where your hand was,
Nought gold where your hair was,
But phantom, forlorn,
Beneath the thorn,
Your ghost where your face was.

Cold wind where your voice was,
Tears, tears where my heart was,
And ever with me,
Child, ever with me,
Silence where hope was.

November by Walter de la Mare
Learn English in November


TeachTeach Your TeacherHomePosts: 10,561 mod
edited January 2015 in Myths and Legends
What do you think will bring you luck in 2015?

In most parts of the UK black cats are considered lucky.

In Germany, around New Year, everyone buys lucky marzipan shamrocks, pink piggies and chimney sweeps.
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  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 45,649 ✭✭✭✭
    I need to make sure of spoiling the little black cat that lives here then @Lynne. Maybe, touch wood, he'll bring me luck.
  • aprilapril Moderator Posts: 11,255 mod
    Actually, I've never thought to find something that bring me luck.
    I'm content with what I have, I guess.
    We always say " shatters bring luck" when we drop and smash a glas for example.
    That's what Greeks do while they dance the Sirtaki, right?
    They smash plates and quite a lot!
    Does this tradition bring them luck?
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 45,649 ✭✭✭✭
    But broken mirrors are a sign of bad luck aren't they @april? I think to a large extent, we create luck for ourselves.
  • BubblyBubbly Posts: 29,890 Inactive
    For me, my luck is my faith...the stronger it is the more I get!
  • TeachTeach Your Teacher HomePosts: 10,561 mod
    Chimney sweeps are considered lucky in the UK and Germany. Even though many houses have central heating nowadays, the romance of an open fire hasn't died, and chimney sweeps are sometimes invited to weddings to kiss the bride.

  • aryarchiaryarchi Posts: 864 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2015
    @bubbli , There's no special thing bringing luck for me too.
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 45,649 ✭✭✭✭
    I think myself lucky when I see a black cat, but only because I find that they are such beautiful animals.
  • BubblyBubbly Posts: 29,890 Inactive
    @aryarchi find out dear... may be its inside you!
  • aryarchiaryarchi Posts: 864 ✭✭✭✭
    @mheredge, It's a little odd, are you sure that you feel lucky seeing a black cat?
    @bubbli , I don't think so , I can't find anything. :(
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 45,649 ✭✭✭✭
    For me, black cats have always made me feel fortunate @aryarchi. Maybe it is only because I find they are such lovely animals (though I like all cats). Or maybe it's just to do with the fact that as a child we liked to have a black cat as a pet. Interestingly, some cultures regard them as symbols of bad luck, while some see them as lucky.
  • aryarchiaryarchi Posts: 864 ✭✭✭✭
    @mheredge , even if it is a lovely black cat, I remember misfortune while imaging it.
  • BubblyBubbly Posts: 29,890 Inactive
    @mheredge quite different experience with black cats..which culture see it as lucky? I never heard!
  • BubblyBubbly Posts: 29,890 Inactive
    @mheredge very deep research, infact!:) Thank you for sharing!
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 45,649 ✭✭✭✭
  • FrankFrank Moderator Posts: 6,668 mod
    Lynne said:

    In most parts of the UK black cats are considered lucky.

    This sounds special to me @Lynne. Superstitious people in Holland taught me that when a black cat crosses your path, it will bring bad luck. I thought this might be an alternative view of the people in my country alone, so I've been searching for the English version of the story and I found this:

    A black cat crossing your path is considered by many to be an omen of doom; not only is it bad luck, it is VERY bad luck. From there the superstition goes as far as belief that the black cat is a demon in disguise trying to cut off a person’s access to heaven. It is said that cats- and black cats in particular- act as “familiars” to witches, creatures that are imbibed with an evil, otherworldly sentience that give power to their master.

    You can learn more about this here:

    You can also look at it at another way:
  • BubblyBubbly Posts: 29,890 Inactive
    Wow! What a beautiful cat. I really want it to cross my path.
  • SairaSaira Posts: 846 ✭✭✭
    I don't believe in luck only hard work gives you success but black cats are beautiful .
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 45,649 ✭✭✭✭
    When I see a black cat, whether or not it crosses my path, I consider myself very lucky.
  • BubblyBubbly Posts: 29,890 Inactive
    I believe in it. :)

  • SairaSaira Posts: 846 ✭✭✭
    Maybe sometime luck works.
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 45,649 ✭✭✭✭
    But when it comes to betting on a horse to win, I think I jinx the poor animal as I'm never lucky.
  • SairaSaira Posts: 846 ✭✭✭
    Some time I believe in luck,the only good luck may great men ever had was being born with the ability and determination to over come bad luck.
  • deedee Posts: 83 ✭✭
    @Saira,and @mheredge ,I have very strong believe on luck,I saw often these things happen with us and others.
  • TeachTeach Your Teacher HomePosts: 10,561 mod
    Any examples of blind luck @dee? What was your luckiest moment?
  • deedee Posts: 83 ✭✭
    @Lynne,I often won the lottery. :) Once I won a small car. :)
  • mheredgemheredge Posts: 45,649 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow @dee. What did you do with it?
  • deedee Posts: 83 ✭✭
    @mheredge ,I got the car and drove it home. :)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭
    Clovers occasionally have four leaflets, instead of the usual three. These four-leaf clovers, like other rarities, are considered lucky. Clovers can also have five, six, or more leaflets, but these are rarer.
    A common idiom is "to be (or to live) in clover", meaning to live a carefree life of ease, comfort, or prosperity. This originally referred to the fact that clover is fattening to cattle.
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